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M-CHARGE Basic Limmatplatz

robotaxi

https://map.evromandie.ch?location=2e5fac8b-db8e-4347-9b3c-07a55ed83fdb

Clark

I have still not been able to visit this location at this time. But I will try to retrace some history.

The location was and is still listed on the "old" map from Migros website has having 1 plug.

The location on GoingElectric still shows pictures and data from that time. The data shows 1 T2 socket at 11kW. The pictures show that there are actually 2 evbox chargers, the public charger is presumably the green one on the left, while a second grey charger to the right is seen connected to a rental "emotion" Renault Zoe. The oldest check-in is from August 2014.

It's surprising to think such an important location was not updated until 2022. There is nothing more recent visible on either GoingElectric or Chargemap pictures.

From July 2022, this location was part of the M-CHARGE Basic pilot program with 9 connectors.

On October 24, 2023 when I first downloaded the new M-CHARGE app after its announcement this was one of the first locations visible in that new app, still with 9 connectors.

I don't see any pictures of the M-CHARGE setup online. No idea if they were installed at the same place as the old m-way charger or elsewhere.

Clark

There are new chargers at this location! I didn't catch when exactly they were added to the map, they were not listed on March 19 but were listed on April 5.

One is a 2-user 50kW charger, probably an HYC_50.

The other is a 2-user 160kW. charger. That's a first for a Migros location. I wonder what hardware is used.

Neither has been announced on social media for Migrol at this time.

The HPC price is 0.49CHF/kWh + 0.09CHF/min, same as the Classic Migrol fast chargers, but it's faster than the Classic chargers.

Clark

I was finally able to visit on Tuesday. I didn't charge.

It's the largest Migros in number of chargers, but it's a complete mess.

The chargers are split across 5 area on 3 different floors.

Each floor has its own ticket gate, and I guess you could immediately exit without paying if you don't find a free charger on the floor you entered, but there's officially no free period here.

There are zero directions for chargers. You have to search for them. In P1 you might notice the fast charger even before entering the ticket gate because it's right next to the entrance. In P2 there's a very small sign hanging from the ceiling above the chargers, but if you reach that point you will see the chargers anyway. That sign dates back from the free charger period.

There are 3 AC chargers on each floor, for the total of 9 chargers. But they are placed differently on each floor. In P1 they are shortly after the entrance after the West side with angled parking spots. In P2 they are near the lift with angled parking spots in the opposite direction of P1. In P3 they are on the West side again but this time as parallel parking spots.

The 50kW DC charger is in P2 on the back of the AC chargers, which is a half-floor a little lower than the main parking.

The 160kW DC charger is in P1 next to the entrance ticket gate, but you can't turn right, you have to drive around the entire floor to come back there.

The 4 parking spots for the 2 DC chargers are not painted yet. The 160kW charger was not usable while I was there because it was blocked by cars not charging. There was also one of the AC chargers ICEd by a Porsche.

There are illuminated signs next to each floor name at the entrance, telling which parkings are open for who. When I entered, only P3 indicated for "Kunden", but I didn't get to take a picture or remember what the others said. When I came back to take a picture, all 3 floor said "Kunden" again. I asked the information center and they weren't able to explain to me how that works exactly. It seems like you can enter any of the parking floors no matter what it says.

Clark

Visited on June 3 without charging.

This time I was able to take a picture of the billboard at the entrance showing only one parking opened to the public, the only parking without any DC charger. But I wasn't there with a car to try intentionally entering the "wrong" level. Based on what the staff told me last year it should be perfectly possible to reach the DC charger anyway.

The issues from my last visit have been fixed: the DC spots have been painted, and they added some additional direction signs. But it doesn't seem like the signs mention any power, so you're just following blindly to "some" charger, but you won't know which one it is until you are in front.